Tuesday, July 19, 2005

Get Ready for your Close-Up

After reading this, some Portland TV news managers may be getting up pretty early tomorrow morning.

Willamette Week's cover story tomorrow will focus on Portland TV News and sweeps (especially the current July book). It is written by Zach Dundas.

Mr. Dundas and I conversed via email and he asked some very good questions, so I look forward to reading his take.

The issue hits the street sometime after midnight. It'll be live on the WWeek website after 10am Wednesday.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tonight the local TV ND's will know the "night tremors" Oregonian editors feel every Tuesday night wondering what big story WW has (and they don't).

Remember, WW broke the story of PPS poisoning Whitaker's faculty and children as well as the Goldschmidt child rape story, while the Washington Post broke the Packwood story way back when.

The Big O could use a big breaker right about now.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:41:00 PM  
Blogger Ruben Bailey said...


You have positioned yourslef to be a major player in the PDX media world. Congratulations.

I will say though that IMHO the vast majority of WW readers rarely watch the local news. I think the folks who are mentioned (or implicated) will certainly be interested in what Mr. Dundas has to say, but I firmly believe the majority of the WW audience shuns/scoffs/disgusts at the local TV news.

I forsee some interesting insight and fresh tidbits but I doubt anything major will come of this. Now if the O or even the Trib did something like this, then I would tend to think differently.

yes? no?

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:01:00 PM  
Anonymous MarkDaMan said...


Do you have any stats to back up your statements? Has there ever been a study done about whether or not WW readers watch local news? I doubt it.

I religiously read the WW. The front half of the paper is usually pretty informative. I also watch the local news a couple times a day. My experience is that many people pick up the free rag and read it on the train or bus back to their homes after work. Many of these readers look professional and it wouldn't be a stretch to say they probably flip on the news while preparing meals and whatnot at home.

The WW has had some excellent scoops lately which has lead to some pretty good PR. The stories are compelling with an in your face style of reporting. I love it and tend to think a lot of us younger Portlanders probably read it as a source for our news as well as watching or reading local news from other sources.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read WW every week. Watch the TV news to see what propaganda is being pushed. How is it that 4 supposed independent stations can day in and day out all come up with the same stories? What are the odds?

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it that 4 supposed independent stations can day in and day out all come up with the same stories?

They all listen to the same police scanner.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it that 4 supposed independent stations can day in and day out all come up with the same stories?

They all read the same NEWSPAPER.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:24:00 PM  
Blogger Ruben Bailey said...

Def. was a generalization on my part that I will still stand by.

I do think that folks read WW/Mercury on thier way home and then make dinner and watch the news. However, I feel a large part of the WW audience doesn't read the entire cover story (yes, another generalization).
The folks who read WW (ready, here comes another generlaization!) get their "news" from murmurs, winners and losers, and nose. The folks (the majority)who are reading WW read the arts/culture stuff. Often times I feel that the cover story of the WW drags on and loses a lot of steam. I can't tell you how many times I've been so exicted by the tease on the cover, only to make it a page deep and move on.

I stand by my statement that most WW readers don't read the entire cover story and most are disgusted by the local TV news.

I could be wrong, but I feel like I am closer to correct than not.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Ruben ... I can't remember the last time I read the complete WW cover story (yawn)...

And I physically shudder whenever I accidentally flip through local TV news .... how much more insipid and inane can one get?

Oh, wait, there's the Mercury ...

So where do I get my news? Well, likely it's a synthesis of a number of sources, but largely print media. I mean, you have to read a bunch of rags to find real truth and depth.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I look at WW. Sometimes I read it. I rarely, if ever watch local news. It is a waste of time, and all of the people on it come from pods located somewhere near Columbus, Ohio.
A story on local news in late July? When the paper is at its thinnest and everybody is on vacation? The perfect time for a throwaway by a lousy reporter.
Ain't life in the media fun?

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I consider WW about 95 percent worthless as a news source. Most of their cover stories are more akin to last week's throwaway "Night Cabbie" extravaganza than to the PGE Papers triumph. They are also notoriously bad about follow-up and they don't support their writers with editorials (neither does the Tribune, to its shame).

Another problem with WW from my own perspective (your mileage may differ) is that they are quite a bit more conservative politically than most cities' "alternative" weeklies. They are willing to endorse anti-abortion Republicans for office if they think they are more "competent" than the Democrat (which is especially idiotic in the case of the state legislature, where power is based mainly on party affiliation, with one party being overwhelmingly hostile to urban concerns). Even worse, they seem to go out of their way to oppose progressive grassroots initiatives, often for absurdly picayune reasons (in one recent election they helped shoot down labeling of GMO foodstuffs and expansion of the Oregon Health Plan, and they even tried to stop a minimum wage increase!) I read it because Portland has so little in the way of print media, but as an "alternative" WW leaves a hell of a lot to be desired if you've ever lived in, say, Seattle, SF or LA.

Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I second the above comment. Willamette Week was largely responsible for the passage of Measure 5 in 1990, which has ruined Portland's once-great school system. They also supported a Sizemore-sponsored addendum to M5, circa 1997, which made it even worse. Sure, they take the liberal line on easy-call "social issues" like medical pot and gay rights, but when matters of serious money and power are on the table they always seem to find some rationalization for wanting to preserve the status quo. There's nothing "alternative" about WW. I think the main problem is their top people (Meeker, Zusman) have just gotten too rich and too complacent for the good of their paper (and the community it purports to serve).

Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, someone else actually agrees with me about Willamette Week's essential conservatism. I was active in a 2000 effort to repeal the state's mandatory minimum sentencing law, which Willy Week had opposed back in 1994 (Measure 11). Much to my shock and dismay, they came out against our repeal initiative, citing the alleged inconvenience to the judiciary of resentencing all those non-violent drug offenders -- as if this were more important than justice! Bunch of f'ing hypocrites, I say -- and more than a little bit racist too. Excuse my language but this betrayal still angers me a great deal.

Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:43:00 PM  
Blogger douchebag sal said...

the ww "story" is just another example of all fluff and no content.
What is the fucking point just rehashing a bunch of idiotic stories we have seen on fox12"news"

the problem with you losers is that you all walk around on eggshells afraid to offend someone that could potentially be the next employer. either write a fucking story with some actual content or just shut the fuck up.

ww, kpam, koin, kptv, it does not matter. just a collection of loser employees that will NEVER make it outside of this pathetic market

not to pop your bubble, but the reality is in the real world, i.e. anywhere outside of this market, with VERY few exceptions, you are all regarded as a joke by your peers

Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:11:00 PM  

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