Friday, August 26, 2005

Bits and Pieces

  • Portland is now the 23rd largest TV market in the country, according to Nielsen. That's big news, considering how many national advertisers make a top 25 market buy. If Portland had slipped behind, say Baltimore and Indy, it would have cost some sales people a car.

  • Someone is advertising on Craig's List for newspaper advertising sales people. "Northwest Meridian Media is bringing to market Oregon’s only mass market newspaper targeted at readers who are tired of the media being monopolized by liberal and socialist ideologues that laud any misguided plan by government as progressive and apologize on their behalf for their miserable failures." I wonder what that really means and who is behind it.

  • PAX's 10pm news will be no more. KGW will start producing a 10pm newscast for Portland's WB starting October 3. KGW talent, WB's air signal. While no one can predict that it will bump the juggernaut that is Fox12 Oregon, it is likely to get better ratings than when it ran on PAX. In the May book, PAX delivered a .1 rating for its 9pm program and the news did a 1.4/2. WB's 9pm shows averaged 3.1.

  • And KOIN had its 3rd union vote since May. KOIN's management challenged the fact that this time, producers and assignment editors were among those voting to unionize. Would someone let us know the vote total and what's behind the challenge?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet everyone was praying they would just get rid of the 10 pm show.

Maybe they could get better ratings if they dumped Zaffino for Daria O'Neil in a low cut T-shirt.

Friday, August 26, 2005 3:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

koin management is challenging the local nlrb decision to let producers and the assignment desk participate in the vote. koin considers these people to be supervisors. the vote was taken, with producers and the assignment voting, but the results are sealed until the nlrb in d.c. rules on the koin management appeal.

Friday, August 26, 2005 4:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The WB thing will be interesting. No doubt it will have bigger lead ins than PAX BUT... I think WB viewers are considerably less interested in news than older PAX viewers. And even if WB/KGW does attract a bigger audience, will it canabilize KGW's 11 since they are virtually identical newscasts. KGW could cut into KPTV at the expense of losing the 11. Who knows.. we'll soon see.

Friday, August 26, 2005 4:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Plastic Hallway said...

It doesn't work like that anymore. Market share is market share is market share. The idea is to be THE tv news source. The money guys wouldn't be backing it if combo buys and other tools weren't around to counter any viewer loss. It's about the advertisers, not the viewers

Friday, August 26, 2005 4:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Northwest Meridian paper is an odd thing. Not for its content; I say bring on the Libertarians and capitalists.

But there's precious little out there anywhere to gauge the seriousness or ability of any principals. A coupla weeks of ads on Craigslist, and a Web site that appears to have gone up yesterday, and nothing else.

Not sure if I were a sales rep that I'd be counting my kids' college tuition on their 100% commission plan, though maybe some local biz would like a place to advertise that's even more unabashedly pro-growth and pro-money at the expense of all else.

After all, none of our current news outlets promote consumption enough.

Friday, August 26, 2005 4:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHOIS search on comes back with Wes Wagner, who is Clackamas County chairman of the Libertarian Party of Oregon. He ran in the House District 39 race in 2004.

Friday, August 26, 2005 6:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This also appeared with the message on craigslist. Why did you not respect his wishes. And no I'm not Wes.
Job location is Portland and Salem, OR

Compensation: high commission rate plus draw for qualified candidates

no -- Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

no -- Please, no phone calls about this job!

no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

no -- Reposting this message elsewhere is NOT OK.

Friday, August 26, 2005 9:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fair use doctrine. It's not being posted here to look for candidates, it's being posted here for research and reporting purposes.

i.e. what the poster wants us to do or not do with it is trumped by our First Amendment right to report on it.

Friday, August 26, 2005 9:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 3:39 pm -- actually, everyone at KGW was hoping the show would find a way to survive. The extra revenue (even with the puny PAX numbers) pays for a handful of reporters, photogs, producers, editors, and directors. Losing the 10pm show would mean losing those bodies from the newsroom, and having more bodies than everyone else is a large part of what makes KGW the 800 lb gorilla of the market.

(There you go trolls, I just served up a meatball for you. Have at it with the gorilla jokes.)

Friday, August 26, 2005 9:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also think this is great news for both KGW and KWBP. I think it's too bad Tribune doesn't promote the channel number the way Acme did when they owned it, 'cause then it could be promoted as "32@10," either meaning the channel number and/or a 32 minute newscast (no idea how that would work, although I think most 11PM newscasts are 35 minutes).
I wonder if we'll see all-new graphics and such, or if this will be "Northwest NewsChannel 8 on WB." In this non-TV person's opinion: how about 'WB News at 10 presented by NewsChannel 8?'

Friday, August 26, 2005 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be called "Jugs and Thugs" the 10 O'Clock News on the WB hosted by Daria.

Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I may forgetting something, but when we added the 10pm show on PAX there was no great hiring push.
We all ended up doing a package at 10 and 11.

We always had more people than everyone else.

Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that a couple of people were hired to accomodate the 10PM cast--maybe a reporter and a photog...but the reason for KGW's staff size is that's the way it's supposed to be, if you're #1.

Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for a new topic.

Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KGW hired extra reporters, photographers, directors, editors and producers for the 10pm newscast on PAX. Keeping the 10pm newscast alive by moving it to WB means KGW keeps the extra staff resources; resources that are used for all of KGW's evening newscasts.

Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Intially PAX underwrote 2 the salaries of reporters, 2 photographers, 1 editor and 2 producers. I don't believe they are still sharing in the salaries of those identified as PAX employees. With the WB agreement it is not clear whether WB will continue to share in the additional production costs. Managment has not said if they will continue to keep those employees identifed as PAX employees when they take over the 10pm time at WB.

Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anybody noticed the spots running on KPOJ from the union at OPB? For an orgaization that likes to run to it's "members" for money 4 or 5 times a year, claming poverty, I'm wondering how many "members" realize the facts that the union is stating...and if the spots will effect how many of the "members" renew.
The dirty facts about OPB are finally coming out.

Monday, August 29, 2005 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOOTBALL SEASON IS HERE AND KOIN WILL NOT GO "HD" ON COMCAST~ i will not watch there news until they do.
This is my final word.


Monday, August 29, 2005 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So their!

Monday, August 29, 2005 4:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 4:00:54: It's "there".

Anyone even remotely involved with journalism should know the basic rules.

Monday, August 29, 2005 4:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're not going to watch there news?

I guess you'll just keep righting it huh?

Monday, August 29, 2005 4:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously somebody who has AOL.

Monday, August 29, 2005 9:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why should koin spend all that money on HD conversion and then give it away free to comcast? you can get koin HD over the air.

Monday, August 29, 2005 9:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now that self-appointed media queen ann van gordon and her loser boss van dant (the daddy and the little boy sales) can actually feel like they have something legitimate to sell

reaching the bubble-gummers has never had any interest to us advertisers

good luck

Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh, and grey paying 25 a spot, they have really grinded you down over at wb

thats pathetic

Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I was younger, me and daria shared a couple bottles of robitussen behind the safeway on powell, and then we totally tripped bawlz

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

portland the 23rd dma?

the control room over at koin is operated like the 197th dma.

its helpful to the viewer for the control room operator to understand how to pot down the bus for the preview audio, how to rack a cart, how to program a goddam traffic log, etc.

just an observation...........

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

local tv news directors are very clever and they really understand this portland/vancouver dma

they understand the best way to communicate to ignorant white people is with ignorant white people

Friday, September 02, 2005 10:19:00 AM  
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