Thursday, August 04, 2005

A Fair Trial

I got a question from someone who wanted to ask this basic question?

Following the coverage of the Wilberger arrest - the newscasts, the Oregonian headline today, etc. - they wanted to know where will the case be tried?

They were asking, I think, if there could be a jury pool in Oregon that can take up the case cleanly, following all the stories. It's a good question, since this is one of the most covered crimes in recent Oregon history.

We can't just sit on our hands on this one, so I'm not sure how I could respond.

I do think Mr. Panty raid may end up with some cash in his pocket because of the earliest allegations that leaned toward him. In the end everything reported on this story was done with the hope of finding Brooke alive.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

The case will be tried in Benton County. It is no more sensational than Longo, Morris, etc.

Heres a little info on Mr. Pantyraid... He is one sick SOB. He has threatened to kill every woman he gets around, including his former attorney, Ms. Connell.

He is an extremely dangerous person, and has just hired another attorney who is male. Thank god.

It would have been irresponsible for the cops not to consider him a suspect based on his connections to the corvallis area, his love of violent pornography and his numerous burglaries of dorms etc.

There are some other freaky things about him, but trust me, he isn't a victim in this deal.

Thursday, August 04, 2005 5:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The police and media went way beyond simply 'considering' Sung Koo Kim a suspect. Also, it's his parents who have filed an $11 million lawsuit against various law enforcement agencies. Indeed, Kim is freaky sick. For his sake and ours, I hope spends the rest of his life under supervised psychiatric care. I couldn't care less if it's in a prison or not.

The recent Wilberger coverage has a "closure" feel to it. As if Joel Courtney has been found gulity. Let's not forget he's 'the accused killer...' or 'the person charged with...'

Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media and Willy Week led the way in convicting Mr Panty Raid long ago. Willy Week had this gem to say:

"In the past few decades, Oregon prosecutors have been able to obtain murder convictions when no body was ever found. But it's extremely difficult to do so without other compelling evidence, such as an eyewitness or a confession.

To make matters even more difficult, Kim has an unusually good alibi."

The "reporter" then says that his family probably lied for him and that unfortunately, someone saw him buying a computer. Maybe it was an unusually good alibi because it was true?

This guy's sick, obviously, from the stuff they found. But a murderer? Willy Week, months ago said yes he was. Think they'll print a retraction? No, that would be expecting too much of the media.

Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whatever the WW did wrong the guy is still a hall of fame dirtbag.

sometimes you hit a homer, like Nigel and the Pulitzer, sometimes you strike out.

At least they are in the game.

Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come the media only follows the disappearance of pretty blonde caucasian girls from good families? God forbid you're a minority child of a welfare mother - if something bad happens to you, there will be no news coverage whatsoever.

Friday, August 05, 2005 7:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please don't refer to WWs Pulitizer. The higher-ups at the newspaper knew about Goldschmidt years ago and, like the rest of the media, decided not to do anything about the story. WW doesn't deserve a prize ... they should be ashamed for shielding the former Govabuser. Goldschmidt should be in jail.

Friday, August 05, 2005 8:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Andrew Klossner said...

God forbid you're a minority child of a welfare mother - if something bad happens to you, there will be no news coverage

You mean like Matal Sanchez?

Friday, August 05, 2005 9:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kids seem to be an exception to that rule. If Matal Sanchez had been 19 and otherwise unremarkable, his disappearance wouldn't have generated much news interest.

Friday, August 05, 2005 9:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, there is definitely the probability that Courtney can get a "clean" trial in Oregon. But, a trial of any kind isn't likely to happen any time soon, given that he has many pending charges in line ahead of this one.

As to the comments above that the media is more likely to hone in on cases involving white blonde girls, the O had a nice op-ed in yesterday's paper about that very thing. They noted that women are raped and abducted daily in this country- in Oregon- and that most of these attacks are perptrated by men the women know, not the stranger in our midst. They also pointed out correctly, although not vehemnetly enough, that Courtney will be seen as some abberation of humanity, who rapes and kills, as opposed to someone part of a larger structural problem.

Is he being portrayed as guilty already? It's the job of the prosecutor to do that, although he is missing a key piece of evidence: a body. The O seems to be fairhanded in reporting the case as its known. I don't personally see any assumptions of guilt in the paper. TV? that's always something different.

Friday, August 05, 2005 9:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Matal Sanchez case is no comparison. It was a local case and received little (if any) national attention. Compare it to the girl who disappeared in Aruba. Day after day after day of international media attention. Hundreds and thousands of little children are killed every year, but only the beauty queen JonBenet Ramsay got the media spotlight. I still maintain that if you're white, blonde and female, chances are the media will help look for you.

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not forget that Richard Jewell ended up owning a big chunk of the AJC after the Olympic Park bombing.

Mr. Panty Raid's parents need the media for now to get their son out of jail and into a psych ward, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the WW and a TV station or four also end up on the receiving end of a lawsuit.

Friday, August 05, 2005 1:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone else is thinking the same thing... this is from the MSNBC web site:

Laci Peterson, Natalee Holloway and Jennifer Wilbanks have become household names. But what about Tamika Huston? In an upcoming report, "What's Missing?" to be broadcast on "Dateline" Friday, August 5, Josh Mankiewicz travels to Spartanburg, S.C. to tell the story of a beautiful young woman who went missing under suspicious circumstances. Tamika's aunt, Rebkah Howard, is a public relations executive who worked tirelessly to get Tamika's disappearance on the national news broadcasts. After having a hard time getting past the front door, she and other critics began to question if the decisions to cover one missing person over another has anything to do with their race. For while Tamika is middle class and attractive, she is also black.

"What's Missing?" takes an unprecedented and critical look at television news coverage of high profile missing person cases, and why the subjects seem invariably to be attractive, female and white. The broadcast explores the media's decision-making process, the role race plays in story selection on network newscasts, and how and why some believe that certain stories make the news cycle over and over again, while thousands of other missing person stories never get a single mention.

Friday, August 05, 2005 2:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It all comes back to that embarassing post on Monday that defined news as whatever makes "good TV."

Friday, August 05, 2005 3:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When Kim goes to trial and the details of his perverted life come out you will understand why he won't be suing anyone.

Having been a suspect in the Willberger case is the least of his concerns.

Friday, August 05, 2005 5:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question for the ladies out there... in REAL life do you really call your undergarments panties? NO they're underwear.. so why not say "women's underwear?" It sounds almost perverted to hear many of the male anchors in town say "panties." It's creepy.

Friday, August 05, 2005 9:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When Kim goes to trial and the details of his perverted life come out you will understand why he won't be suing anyone."

Why wouldn't he sue? Everyone already knows more than they need to know about his "hobby." He might as well get some money out of this pathetic display of media frenzy.

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I'm a man and I am going to start calling my jockey briefs "panties".

And in my shop, most of the producers are women and they write the scripts that say "panties".

So join with me in embracing our uni-sex panties!!!

Saturday, August 06, 2005 3:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>This guy's sick, obviously, from the stuff they found. But a murderer? Willy Week, months ago said yes he was

how many pages removed from the postitute ads in WW was the WW scoop/story/hallucination on Kim's guilt in the Willberger case?

last weeks issue of WW is especially clever, two pages from the whore/prostitute/we are desperate for the ad revenue ads,
is a help wanted for the womens victims advocacy center. that way the girls, after getting bitch-slapped by their pimp, can apply for a new job!

Monday, August 08, 2005 2:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>whatever the WW did wrong the guy is still a hall of fame dirtbag.

sometimes you hit a homer, like Nigel and the Pulitzer, sometimes you strike out.

At least they are in the game.


Monday, August 08, 2005 2:47:00 PM  
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