Wednesday, August 03, 2005

Now, For Something Completely Different

Whew - glad that's over. We'll revisit that. Need a breather.

Here goes.

An email came in from a parent of a high school junior-to-be, who is really interested in journalism - reporting. What he or she didn't make clear was which side - broadcast or print?

I recommended UO in state for its print program and OSU for its broadcast facilities, WSU as the best broadcast journalism school in the NW, and the usuals, Northwestern, Missouri, Columbia (although more for grad school) for print (although Missouri has its own TV station, so that's a big plus).

I told him/her I'd post the question to the field - where would you recommend? Where did you go?

31 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Syracuse University has an outstanding program through the Newhouse School of Communications. Bring a warm coat... trust me.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about USC? (Its gotta be good for something).

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For print, i would go to a school with a good history department and writing program (in the English department -- poetry, fiction, non-fiction: it doesn't matter). For TV, i'd go to a school with a good theater program to go with history and English. Then work on the school paper/radio station as an extracurricular activity.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For broadcast, WSU and UofO are great. But if the kid wants high placement in the field and a ton of hands-on experience, hard working professors, etc, he should try University of Montana. There are a lot of other photogs who went there who got really good jobs here.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:08:00 AM  
Blogger Ruben Bailey said...

Wherever you go. Whatever you do. JUST STAY OUT OF RADIO!!!

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to Missouri, and can recommend it. S/he will have to work hard their first two years to get into the J school, but it's worth it. Unbeliveable resources and faculty, plus its own TV station (an ABC affiliate when I was there), two radio stations, and a daily newspaper.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:59:00 AM  
Blogger Loren said...

I'd go the other route: Central Washington University - get real practical experience in radio, tv and newspaper, without fighting for spots in the program.

Where you go to school matters not much, it's what YOU put into your education that matters. If you haven't stretched your own boundaries to get experience, you're wasting Mommy and Daddy's money for school.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm all for going to the best college you can get into and stretching yourself to the limit academically, but it's imperative to get practical experience as early and as much as possible. If it's broadcast you're heading for, the sooner you can get a weekend desk job at a local network affiliate, the better--you'll have experience, and even more importantly, you'll be making contacts--and that's what really opens doors.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to Syracuse. One of the best programs out there.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me offer the best piece of advice I got in college (though sadly too late for me to best use it):

If you major in journalism, minor or double-minor in something that often makes the front page. Business, political science, international relations, economics, law -- something like that.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take a course on AP copy and thats all you'll ever need.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of WSU grads are working in TV news in Portland and Seattle markets.
They have good hands on programs and a very good reputation nationwide.
(so I'm an old cougar...so what)

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take statistics. Please. Misuse or flat out misunderstanding of quantitative and statistical materials is a huge problem.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take an ethics class (if they still exist) so you can expand your news judgement beyond "if it happens in front you it's news."

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Though I advocate continuing your education at all times, people in broadcast don't really need an education if they want to pursue a career in reporting (and various other broadcast jobs). Having a journalism degree won’t necessarily make you more successful in TV broadcasting. I'd suggest going straight into the business and begin working weekends.

If you want to pursue management, then a degree is key but there are exceptions.
In fact, I know a Disney VP who instead of college, immersed himself in the TV industry.

Also, don't limit yourself to work in the Northwest. Many people leave the area and come back. And they're better for it.
You might even find a new culture out there and realize you'll be forced to interact with people of unique backgrounds.
That diploma is not a key to being a success in broadcast. It's really all about drive and who you are as a person. If I have kids I'd prefer they get a degree, but they may prove me wrong in the end.
Finally, if you go into broadcast you might look into more than just news: Entertainment, Promotion, Programming, Production, Creative Services.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Unviersity of Iowa... there's a brand new journalism school and the Writer's Workshop is world renowned. It's also a fun place to experience all the other college stuff! There's plenty of Iowa grads working in PDX broadcasting too.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:27:00 PM  
Blogger MAX Redline said...

Excellent input! Thanks.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell the kid to get a car and drive around the country for a year. It's much better training.
The one thing they never teach you in J school or broadcasting schools is the one thing that's guaranteed to you: how to get FIRED.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to school and major in writing, period. Writing is the foundation of all media. No matter TV, radio or print...you can write your way out of ANYTHING.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever school you go to and whatever path you choose, make sure you diversify your skills. If you want to be a reporter, make sure you can also shoot, edit, work a computer (by all means, learn computers), navigate through the political process, run an occasional 10k, emcee a gig or two, look professional under pressure and work while you're sick/not feeling well. No one is going to hire a 'one trick pony' in this day and age.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:41:00 PM  
Blogger MAX Redline said...

" If you want to be a reporter, make sure you can also shoot,"

Boy, if you're covering downtown Portland, that isn't a bad idea at all! (s)

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a one-trick-pony and I'm doing quite well as a producer/reporter, thank you.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get into porno for a few years and master the art of oral sex. You'll need it to break into TV.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:51:00 PM  
Blogger PDXMediaWatcher said...

Glad to see we didn't keep this on the up and up. The person who asked sent a note saying thanks to everyone.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and after whatever school you go to, get your first job in a market smaller than portland. Do everything in the news dept; learn the ropes, get the experience. There's nothing worse than a clueless college grad in this business whose first job is in a larger market.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish I had listened to my guidence counselor and become a shepard.

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of a sheep?

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mizzou. Mizzou. Mizzou. It's the oldest journalism school and remains among the best. The two years required to get into the J program is tedious, but also weeds out the posers. Once in the program it's not all theory and student publications: you work on the local paper, TV, radio, etc. and leave Columbia, Mo. with with a reel and/or clips and the Mizzou Maffia alumni network.

Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Washington State University - Murrow School of Communication is one of the best in the Nation.

Just make sure you find a liver donor before you go because you will definitely drink your way through a couple courses!

Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the j school kid is cute -- TV.

If he/she has a Lars Larson-type Radio Face -- print or radio.

Looks can kill, folks. Really.

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:53:00 PM  
Blogger Kazzrie said...

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Friday, October 21, 2005 3:44:00 AM  

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