Thursday, September 01, 2005

High Definition, Low Expectations

I opened my morning Oregonian today to find dozens of stories about the aftermath of Katrina, which I'd already read or seen yesterday. It's not the fault of the O, or any newspaper that they cannot compete now with the internet or TV on a story like this. All they can do is add perspective. I liked the opinion piece about N.O. music in oped.

What cooked me this morning, and worries me about the new sports editor and his vision was today's front page of the sports section.

A nice looking banner about THE OPENING DAY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL SEASON FOR AN OREGON SCHOOL. I emphasize that because I don't care if it's Oregon or Oregon State - opening day is a big story and should have a front page piece. Instead, those stories were tucked inside. Back to the front page - John Canzano in Houston, I'm guessing for the game, writes about Damon Stoudamire (we needed to read this?). I would have thought he would have been assigned to do a piece on the aging Astrodome called into help in relief efforts, if he was not going to write a piece about the Oregon-Houston game. Norm Maves (a great guy) writes about the P$U-O$U game (Saturday!), there's a story about N.O. sports teams below the fold (good) and A HUGE PICTURE and accompanying story about the who cares Seattle Mariners.

If you're looking to lose sports readers, you gave a great show today. And I'm a Cal fan!

I'm guessing HD news really means Huh, Duh?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm guessing the people at the Oregonian who visit this site when they should be working will probably defend the Sports layout, probably saying:
- The callout on the top of the page is no different than "Welcome to Channel 37 News - I'm Vince Trakked - today the streets of Portland broke out in riot; but first, our top story - Meth (blah blah blah)..."
- Canzano's column appears on the front page of the Sports section everyday, regardless of the topic.
- P$U/O$U is a Portland-based University playing an Oregon-based University, since it's a Portland team, it's never too early to brain wash -er- get people pumped up for this.
- The Mariners are the only Major League Baseball team in the Pacific Northwest, and Portland still thinks it's in the running for an MLB team, remember?
- Some people out there actually don't care about hurricane evacuated people or will donate as much as a cent, they just want to know when and where their sports team will play.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Ruben Bailey said...

Does this mean you are off hiatus?

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:03:00 PM  
Blogger PDXMediaWatcher said...

Kind of. Working on the new site and how to minimize the troll stops. I'll post something if something is obvious.
Keep liking your pictures.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Tom D'Antoni said...

Did you see my op-ed piece?

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:31:00 PM  
Anonymous tom d'antoni said...

oops. guess so. thanks.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

College football?


Drunken, racist OSU football players with 600 SAT scores BEATING UP Iraqi War veterans outside a tavern in Corvallis is MUCH more interesting.

I'd pay for that!

In meantime, Oregon colleges are NOWHERE to be found on any national ranking for ED-U-CA-SHUN.

Luckily, WalMart is always hiring. Just not Jessica Lynch. Too slow.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the O hands out those red and blue 3D glasses for thier high def issues.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

portland the 23rd dma?

the control room over at koin is operated like the 197th dma.

its helpful to the viewer for the control room operator to understand how to pot down the bus for the preview audio, how to rack a cart, how to program a goddam traffic log, etc.

just an observation...........

Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:43:00 PM  
Blogger Ruben Bailey said...

LOL!! That's my Air Supply can't make that stuff up!

Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So is the O supposed to become all-hurricane, all-the-time? That's what cable is for. There are other things going on, and that's what a newspaper is for.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So PDX what's your point? What should have been on the cover?

Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember they did run all those pilgrams dying on the front...

The O would be legit if it was O writers, real O writers. I'm sick and tiard of this AP crap!!!

Run some section covers b&w and spend the cash on some writers stationed elsewhere like the Chicago Tribune does!

Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a bunch of freakin' idiots you are. Blah, blah, blah. Go ahead, you try putting out a 350,000 circulation newspaper every day. Oh yeah, you'd be perfect.

Don't like the O? Don't read it. Read Dwight's joke of a newspaper instead.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:50:00 PM  
Blogger PDXMediaWatcher said...

I'd have had a piece about the Duck game on page one, no matter what the banner. Like I'd have had a piece about the Beavs on page one if they had been playing on Thursday night. My point is the O is losing readers for lots of reasons. They lost me today. Let's see their postgame pieces Friday to see if I am back.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:53:00 PM  
Blogger PDXMediaWatcher said...

And by the way 8:50:46, you hit it right on the head. I don't care about putting out a paper. I do care about putting out a newscast and tomorrow, I'll find out if it worked or not. But I think I have better instincts than the O's sports editor today.

Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:55:00 PM  
Anonymous decaf said...

Hey, PDX, do you mean you'd put football on the front of the sports section or Page One of the whole paper?

Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember, the sports editor used to be the business editor. The business section sucked when he was in charge. So when he becomes sports editor.....what, magically the section gets better?

In his defense, and the o's defense, rememeber. this is a regional paper. Its mission is to cover Portland and the Northwest first and foremost. Most any news pro or astute news consumer on ths blog can make a good case for what they would put on the sports section cover. Ok there, Mr. Monday Morning Quarterback suit up and get in there. Show us what ya got......

Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: decaf 11:04:00

I'm also curious... does pdxmediawatcher think college football is a front page story before the season has even begun? Even during the season I would guess it should be a front-of-sports-page only story. Do I misunderstand the relevance of college football's importance to Oregonians? I could...I'm not really into the college football scene.

Is college football really news-worthy or ratings-worthy? This is an honest question. How important is college football to local news media?

Friday, September 02, 2005 1:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Run some section covers b&w and spend the cash on some writers stationed elsewhere like the Chicago Tribune does!

The Chicago Tribune is the flagship outlet of one of the largest mass-media conglomerates in the country and serves one of the top five markets. To compare its resources to the O's is absurd.

Friday, September 02, 2005 4:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean we have a reporter in Houston?
Where the evacuees are going?
Gosh, do you think the News Dept. would want to know?

Managers wake up.
Canzano front page at the Astrodome where he should have been.

Friday, September 02, 2005 8:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Managers wake up.
Canzano front page at the Astrodome where he should have been.

Why should he have been there? What would he write about? How empty the parking lot was? Nobody got there until yesterday. Seems like Thursday's front page was a better place for, you know, news from New Orleans, not the blatherings of some writer 350 miles away.

Friday, September 02, 2005 9:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

> place to talk about Portland's media, with the hope that some managers will read it and understand how their product is perceived

no one cares

Friday, September 02, 2005 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Youmeanyoumeantit? said...

Holy cow, you mean your opening criticism was for real? You really think, at a time when a major American city was virtually wiped off the map, that an Oregon COLLEGE FOOTBALL game belonged out front? I swear, I assumed you were displaying sarcasm. Thank goodness you're not in charge of The O's coverage.

Friday, September 02, 2005 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger PDXMediaWatcher said...

There is no way that story belonged on any place but the front page of the SPORTS section, as you read from my original post.
Right now, the biggest local story, even though it is played out in Corvallis and Eugene, is the beginning of the college football season. That's where my thinking started.

Friday, September 02, 2005 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger activist kaza said...

And when the Ducks upset USC on the 24th, you will look awfully prescient in retrospect...but hey, I think Cal will have a decent season as well (got any line on good seats for that Nov. game?)

Friday, September 02, 2005 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger douchebag sal said...

>Right now, the biggest local story, even though it is played out in Corvallis and Eugene, is the beginning of the college football season

you are even more of a fucking moron than i first thought

i thought you were going to go crawl back in your troll hole and put this blog to bed? what happened, couldn't stand the thought of being mister fantasy publisher? i knew you were blowing smoke up everyones ass

Friday, September 02, 2005 3:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Sal:
Go to New Orleans and spread your good cheer. You're not wanted here. You're the moron ... just look in the mirror.

Friday, September 02, 2005 6:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not feed the troll.

Friday, September 02, 2005 6:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good point

Friday, September 02, 2005 7:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congratulations. This now rivals the always intelligent PDX Radio site.

Hopefully management will read it?

Jeebus, let's hope not.

Friday, September 02, 2005 8:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Jason said...

In response to anonymous @ 3:32:29 - if anyone's noticed, almost all the good folks have left PDXRadio; I can't say that I blame them. Currently, most seem to be doing everything they told me NOT to do... they should be ashamed of themselves! I learned my lesson the hard way, will probably always pay for it, and I thank everyone for their patience as I learned what not to do on an Internet message board.

Even one of the folks who weren't good were shown the error of their ways, apologized, and left :D (Thanks again E., F., M., and everyone else!). That apology still stands for anyone who'd like to accept it. Let's all move beyond PDXRadio and talk about Portland Media, like this site was set up for.

"...But at least I can say I tried, I'm sorry but I gotta move on with my own life." - Papa Roach, "Scars"

In response to various anonymouses @ various times - Earlier this evening, I was doing some sign waving for The Committee to Save C-Tran, up at the corner of NE 134th St. and NE 20th Ave. While I was up there, I noticed at Salmon Creek Park-n-Ride you can take your pick from one (or more) of four daily newspapers:
1. The Oregonian
2. The Columbian
3. Seattle Post-Intelligencer
4. Seattle Times
On all four newspapers, it's almost all Katrina coverage above the fold of Page 1. So, it's the same here as it is everywhere, as it should. I can't think of any story that tops an entire city in our own country being destroyed.

I agree that there are other news stories going on right now, and I think the major media is doing a fair job of mentioning those elsewhere inside the papers and newscasts, given that you could add an extra 4 pages to a newspaper if the advertising that day would support the costs involved, but you can't add an extra few minutes on to a newscast. In the back of my mind I wonder what's going on that would be reported nationally if the hurricane didn't happen, but that's definitely taken a back seat to hoping for the best for the survivors.

Friday, September 02, 2005 9:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Committee to Save C-Tran"... excuse me while I laugh myself silly.

Saturday, September 03, 2005 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Bigpuppy said...

A heads-up for news people who aren't aware of it...the C-tran deal is actually kind of important. There's a vote on a sales tax September 20th. It's already been defeated once. If it's killed again, there will be a massive and immediate reduction in bus service in Clark County. It's a mail election so ballots should arrive soon. Background here:

Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Douche Bag Sal -- giving douche bags a bad name since 2005.........

Sunday, September 04, 2005 8:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Blogger,
Why have you been silent about the hurricaine?

Sunday, September 04, 2005 5:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI, the "High Definition" idea starts with a remake of the Sunday papers, and that really hasn't debuted yet. I fear the marketing campaign has done a poor job of getting across that it's a Sunday-focused change. This is neither to defend or cirticize the upcoming changes. I just wanted to say it's not accurate to connect recent daily papers with the HD remake. Come Sept. 17, we'll all see what that looks like (at least one paper's worth) and can better judge then.

Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, watcher, I really hate the level of coverage that is given to UO and OSU football. Look at the Sports page for the past few days. There is nothing to cover but gee they'll find something.

How about the baseball season, which is hurtling to an end with a tight wildcard race (wildcard standings--never ever posted in the O), a tight race in the NL East, AL East, Oakland's resurgence in the West.

Think you'll get that in the O? Of course not.

June-October: All UO / OSU all the time.
Oct-April: All Blazers all the time.
Fill in: with irrelevant stories about football recruiting and basketball pro draft.

And relegate all other sports to the middle and back pages.


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