Friday, October 07, 2005

The Trib - More Like It

It was refreshing this am to pick up the Trib.

While it doesn't have the muscle of days past, at least the front page looked more like it.

Gone (at least today) was the HUGE picture and just a couple of stories.

Today's had four stories and a normal (for them) front page picture. Nothing earth shattering or ground breaking, but still good stories.

The paper is being propped up with a number of new writers, including some who are trying to negotiate a living wage, and some free lancers.

Still wonder how long this is going to last.

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Blogger The Manly Ferry said...

Quick note. I'd be sad to see the Trib go. I like its focus on Portland - they do as well or better on Portland-specific stuff than the Oregonian - and have found, generally, that the content makes up for the fluff (exploding photos, etc.) that detract from the quality.

Bummer about the staff's problems, though. I count it

Friday, October 07, 2005 1:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But the Tribune has one problem still, what are they, what defines them? Are they a newspaper? We have one of those - and you have to go well out of your way to be more crappy than the O in terms of hard hitting commentary. Where are all the good tabloids?

Friday, October 07, 2005 5:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Big Forehead said...

Quick note. I'd be sad to see the Trib go.

I hate to bring up the obvious(just to me?), but it’s hard to believe that Dr. Pamplin would invest such large amounts of money into something that he is not intending to see though the test of time.

Most other print (see Big O, WWeek) would love to see the Trib go away. It’s taken a certain amount of revenue away from the already steady pocketbooks.

But it seems to me…here ya go…that if everybody loves to hate the Big O so much…

Why is there not larger support for the Portland Tribune?

I do see the problem of definition, but…

The paper (again - to me) has set its intended purpose out there clear as day.

Portland - no more, no less.

Friday, October 07, 2005 6:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I hate to bring up the obvious(just to me?), but it’s hard to believe that Dr. Pamplin would invest such large amounts of money into something that he is not intending to see though the test of time."

Ha! You gave yourself away. No one who doesn't work for the guy, or is sucking up to him, would ever call him "Dr. Pamplin."

The paper did look better on Friday, probably because it had an insert. Made it feel like a real paper.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't it just an advertising insert?

Anything that says "a publication of so-and-so's advertising department" goes instantly into my recycling bin.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't, abbsolutely can't, understand why anyone sees the Trib as anything more than a third-rate wannbe.

There's rarely any "news" in the newspaper. Many of the features come out of nowhere. Sort of ... hey, let's do a story about 'Subject X'. No news peg. Just a brain fart. The Trib is a Portland paper, at least that's the mission statement, but it does a lousy job of it. Part of it is staffing but mostly it's vision and it's a borign read. The paper doesn't have any grease on the jack screw if you ask me.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous bill mcdonald said...

The “Dr. Pamplin” reference might indeed be a giveaway but when I applied I began my letter “Dear Bob” and dropped it off under his office door. The paper ended up hiring me for over 150 columns. By the way, Dr. Pamplin sent a nice letter back and for a serial job applicant like moi that was a sign of immense class on his part. I mean I’m a freelance comedy writer. I don’t always hear back. And forgive me for continually mentioning my gig but there has to be a lot of self-promotion to pull this off. Along the way I keep track of how the local media big-shots respond. The Willamette Week didn’t call back for YEARS! (Not until a recent email regarding a story idea I had.) I was tempted to pretend my number was an escort service just so they’d get back to me. Peter Bhatia has been a class act at the Oregonian. I’ve applied there so many times, I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten a restraining order. But back to Dr. Pamplin: It was hilarious to watch him tip the Tribune team from Dwight Jaynes on down with large bills at the rare meetings I attended. What a character! Trib management might have been strutting around like little gods, but to Bob, they were just so many bellhops. I loved him for that! When you’re that rich, the world is a concierge.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anon 11:39:12 --

maybe you need a new definition of news. not every little suburban council meeting or library board decision is news. that's old-thinking paper-of-record stuff.

look at what even the philadelphia inquirer is doing: rethinking the way it covers everything to tune out the space-filling yet meaningless static and replacing it with the best stories, told in the best manner.

the O isn't doing that. it's had so many hiring freezes in the last decade that attrition and the lack of new faces flushed by the new blood of new ideas have left it a cold reminder of how good it could have been and, once awakened, could still be.

the paper occasionally breaks a good story or two, but those are rare. its storytelling, which should be able to in some way fill the gaps between the big breakers, is stale.

willamette week has made itself the best forum to pop a story with actual impact, but its newshole is so slight and its financial resources so strained at the moment that it can't do it with any real consistency.

what it seems the trib aims to do is tell the best story it has for each edition. the only requisite is that it be about portland, that it tells you something about the home we share in this city. if it hits hard, great. if it pisses you off, great. if it makes you laugh, great. and if it makes you show it to someone else with the words, "read this," doubly great.

it ain't as scrappy as willamette week and it ain't as golden-retriever sturdy as the O. and who knows, it might be gone next week.

but management and ownership aside, there is a nobility in its staff's mission to do nothing but tell a good story. and in portland, it seems alone in that simple pursuit.

of course, I'm sure they're just glad you read the thing at all.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 2:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey the WW burned the Oregonian big time on the Goldschmidt deal but there are good reporters doing important stories at the O.

Two recent examples- Maxine Bernstein and her examination of the Police Disability and Retirement Fund. That continuing series could change the system and save taxpayers millions over the years.

And the expose about how the Portland Police dropped the ball on second hand stores. Also good solid journalism and also a story that may help stop some criminals.

I read the WW and the Trib.

I don't think any town can have too many newspapers.

Besides, where would TV reporters get stories if there were no newspapers?

Saturday, October 08, 2005 2:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anon 2:20:08 PM

These days The O is screening out the little city council/turn-of-the-screw stories to focus on wider ranging, in-depth reporting. Give the paper six months to transition, then criticize.

Go back and look at the depth of The O's enterprise and investigative reporting over the past 12 months. If you see it all at once, it's pretty damn amazing.

Full disclosure: I work for The O but I'm among the rank and file. In defense of Sandy, Peter and the others who make the tough calls, they are dedicated, professional and commited to producing a first-rate newspaper. I deeply respect them for their efforts.

And to you chronic whining wankers out there: give the Goldschmidt thing a rest. The O screwed up big time, as did every other media outlet in the world, when it came to blowing the covers off Neil. Get over it.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 4:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re investigative work at the O:

Don't forget Steve Suo's many in-depth pieces on the meth plague, which have been internationally cited -- including on the floors of Congress by legislators from outside the NW region -- and are helping authorities nationwide realize what they're up against and how to fight it.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 4:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's an especially good example.

Day in, day out you see good work in The O. Maybe every story doesn't enthrall you but it's fine meat-and-potatoes jornalism.

From 4:55:48 PM

Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"meth plague"

Remember the media pile-on over the supposedly rampant shark attacks a summer or two ago? Meth is this year's media pile-on. In a few months it'll be something else.

Saturday, October 08, 2005 8:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:58:16 PM

You are incredibly misinformed. Or perhaps you're just an idiot.

Try this simple test,

At random pick any five street cops, social service workers, and/or emergency room doctors/nurses.

Ask them whether meth is the flavor of the month.

Please come back and let us know if you still think the meth issue is a "media pile-on."

Saturday, October 08, 2005 9:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is totally off topic but as long as dope is illegal dope is going to fuel crime.

The St Valentines Day massacre in the '20's was over booze.

The killings today are over dope.

If we let people smoke pot legally maybe half these tweakers would just get high, eat a couple pounds of doritos and cheese dip and fall asleep every night.

We lost the drug war a long time ago.

Why do we keep killing americans over drugs? Let them kill themselves if they want to do meth.

But if they dont have to steal to get dope we all win. Except the folks who kill themselves with meth.

If booze was still illegal people would be getting shot every day over booze dealing.

Off topic but really just make drugs non-criminal, not legal, just not illegal.

Think about this. If you want to be a TV reporter you have to take a drug test. If you want to be a Portland cop you don't. Whats the deal on that?

Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meth affects public safety, the public health and endangers the children of the users. It is anything but a vicitmless crime.

We now resume our regular programing.

Sunday, October 09, 2005 8:39:00 AM  
Blogger lisaloving said...

There are some great people at the Trib, no question about it. But the truth is, anybody trying to lift off a dead tree publication in Portland, OR in the 21st century is screwing up. Portland is the center of the digital forest. Put down that Sporting News and look around at the rest of the world; new media is taking off, and nobody's looking back. Except newspaper employees.

If the Tribsters rolled their whole kit and caboodle into an electronic new-media project, with a hot, functioning website, RSS, and some of the new ideas people around here are having, NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP THEM. That's where the future is. Check out Zach's weird cover article in last week's WW if you don't believe me. Look at the demographics.

The Trib is in the catbird seat to mount such a project. Since Uncle Bob is shoveling cash into a vortex, WHY NOT TAKE IT TO THE BRIDGE, as James Brown used to say? In 10 years, if we're all still reading smeary paper news media, it'll be because Peak Oil caused a global crisis and we're back to Johann Gutenberg.

Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: 10:49:42 AM

New media or old media, you won't succeed without quality content.

Does the Trib have quality content. Do you have any realistic expectation the Trib will ever have quality content?

Sunday, October 09, 2005 8:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:20:08 back again.

my point was not that O does nothing worthwhile, just that I can't trust it to be great consistently.

FPD&R was good but not great. newsday did a far better job on that story a decade ago and won a pulitzer for it. the meth series last october was nearly great but lacked any real tie to portland, which I look for in my portland paper even though it's a national story.

I'm not yet 30. I'm a renter. I go out a fair amount but not every night. I care about my neighborhood and my city and I appreciate portland above most
other cities. I vote. I love -- again: love -- newspapers. and even though the O disappoints me, I still read it.

and with that profile the O carries nearly nothing day to day that I'm interested in reading.

it is a good newspaper, better than many such institutional metropolitan dailies in this country. it could have been, and still could be, great.

but it isn't. it never -- never -- surprises me.

I'm not ripping on it so much as saying how sad that makes me. I want to find interesting or relevant or damning or angelic copy in it.

but I don't. not consistently.

in the meantime, I'm content to keep firmly on my reading list willamette week and the trib, which at least I know are trying to be more than they are.

Monday, October 10, 2005 8:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What could The O do to fulfill you?

Monday, October 10, 2005 9:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What could The O do to fulfill you?

Here's tomorrows banner, top-of-the-page-below-the-header headline:
"George Walker Bush should be Impeached: the Investigation on Why This Should be Done"

Monday, October 10, 2005 9:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the post that said, in part:

"Don't forget Steve Suo's many in-depth pieces on the meth plague"

Ha! One of Pamplin's little monthly papers in outer East Portland ran a 7-part series on meth nearly two years before it became a "story" for the "big" papers.

Monday, October 10, 2005 9:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a Pamplin monthly had ran a series on meth so long ago, why didn't the Trib didn't pick up on it?

Looks like their staffs (in this communication business) don't communicate very well.

Monday, October 10, 2005 9:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's tomorrows banner, top-of-the-page-below-the-header headline:
"George Walker Bush should be Impeached: the Investigation on Why This Should be Done"

The O is already doing this. It's on the comic page and it's called "Doonesbury".

Why is this not on the editorial page where it belongs?

Monday, October 10, 2005 9:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for the smaller paper for getting to the story -- but getting there first doesn't necessarily mean the story is done. Clearly, as the impact of Suo's work shows, the problem continues to escalate, and you can't argue with the fact that his series has changed the terms of the meth debate (if made it annoyingly harder to get your hands on Tylenol PM).

Monday, October 10, 2005 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even "Just Out" ran a feature story on the meth issue several years ago ... long before it was a headline in the mainstream ... of course, that was probably, sadly, reflective of how the epidemic has grown anyway -- hitting the gay community harder and quicker than elsewhere

Monday, October 10, 2005 1:10:00 PM  
Blogger drgogol said...

It's been a headline for years in alternative, mainstream and community media, including the Oregonian.

The difference in the recent Oregonian work on meth is the focus on a solution, namely regulating the pharmaceutical drugs that are used to make the illicit drug.

Monday, October 10, 2005 1:14:00 PM  
Anonymous former viewer said...

"Don't forget Steve Suo's many in-depth pieces on the meth plague"

How could I? I had to avoid The O for a week to get away from that borefest. How is it that newspapers can dig up such good stories and present it to readers in such a poor way?

If you want to hear a great interview by Bob Edwards on the problem with series such as the meth one, surf on over to: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1121710

It sums it all up.

Monday, October 10, 2005 3:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think about this. If you want to be a TV reporter you have to take a drug test. If you want to be a Portland cop you don't. Whats the deal on that?

I dunno, but my guess would be that the latter has a better union than the former.

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